Alfa needs an R8

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 06/16/2020 at 14:58 • Filed to: None

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marshknute > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/16/2020 at 15:04

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They’re working on it . It’ll be called the Maserati MC20

MrSnrub > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/16/2020 at 15:21

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Counterpoint: Alfa needs a new Giulietta and the Tonale to get into production like yesterday

JMordu becoming “savethemilanos” > MrSnrub 06/16/2020 at 15:55

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Yep. Honestly I wouldn’t hate a Giulia coupe for legacy purposes, but I seriously doubt there is a GTV coming anymore. And an engine between the 280hp and 510hp options would be great on the Giulia/Stelvio. An optioned TI L usso still is so much cheaper than a Quad, so there is space in the market segmentation, just not enough sales to matter.

My Busso loving heart would love an N/A version of the 2.9 v6 good for 350-400hp, in a lightened Giorgio platform coupe with a manual and a redline more like a Ferrari than a Fiat. But I know that will never happen and getting any interesting A lfas at all is honestly a blessing in 2020.

MrSnrub > JMordu becoming “savethemilanos” 06/16/2020 at 16:21

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Alfa and FCA as a whole need a full lineup that is maintained consistently . They waited 4 years after discontinuing the 159 to replace it with the Giulia! Inexcusable . And Alfa should have had an SUV 15 years ago. They even had a very pretty concept in 2003 that they didn’t do anything with!

Then there’s Fiat, which used to be a full-line automaker like VW and Ford but is now down to the Panda, 500 and 124. That they let the Punto, once a massive seller and Fiat’s core offering , wither on the vine like it did is just bizarre.

Now that I think about i t , Fiat and Alfa combined could pretty easily be a full-line automaker. Maybe with the merger with PSA it could look like this:

A-segment/city : Fiat Panda, Fiat 500e

B-segment/subcompact : new Fiat Punto based on the PSA EMP1 platform

C-segment/ compact : Fiat Stilo for poors, Alfa Giulietta for non-poors, both based on PSA EMP2

D-segment/ midsize : Giulia as-is with regular refreshes/enhancements

C-SUV: Tonale, already due soon

D-SUV: Stelvio, also needs regular attention to stay relevant like the Giulia

Then they can start adding niche options like a Giulia Sprint/GTV etc. But the way Fiat’s been managing it, the brand is just going to muddle along in near obscurity.

PS9 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 06/17/2020 at 00:12

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Alfa needs to figure out how to get people to buy it’s cars before that.